Releases

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Tad Eareckson
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Re: Releases

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Aw, c'mon...

http://ozreport.com/12.081
Weaklinks - the HGFA rules
Davis Straub - 2008/04/22 14:47:00 UTC

Here is the requirement from the 2007 Worlds local rules (which I wrote) for weaklinks:
Pilots must use weaklinks provided by the meet organizers and in a manner approved by the meet organizers. All weaklinks will be checked and use of inappropriate weaklinks will require the pilot to go to the end of the launch line to change the weaklink.

Weaklinks will consist of a single loop of Cortland 130 lb Greenspot braided Dacron Tolling line and should be placed at one end of a shoulder bridle.
She was just following the rules (which Davis wrote) for the 2009 Forbes Flatlands. And...

http://ozreport.com/13.004
Forbes, going into day four, task four
Davis Straub - 2009/01/05 21:58:07 UTC
Forbes Airfield

Julia, who that Russian team almost didn't let fly last year, is leading all the Russians.
...she's definitely a smart kid. So she probably sneaks another single loop of Cortland 130 lb Greenspot braided Dacron Tolling line on the other end of her shoulder bridle to cut the load on the first one in half after she clears the Launch Safety Marshal.

Good catch, I'd quit looking and missed that one in the shadow after I'd noted the one between the tow ring and Kaluzhin Release.

(Hover on her name on the scoring list in that post (like I did inadvertently) for the source of the photo.)
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Re: Releases

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What I see is a loop in the line followed by a carabiner then a tow ring and then the release.
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Re: Releases

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Got me again. Hard to go wrong starting with a zero IQ assumption and looking for the stuff that DOESN'T fit the profile.

So when the Davis Link increases the safety of the towing operation the:
- port bridle end with its eye-splice has gotta burn through the guide through the Kaluzhin Release
- deadman switch gets ripped out of her teeth
- release disengages from the tow ring, plummets back to Earth, hopefully goes through a windshield or kills a dog to facilitate recovery

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30971
Zach Marzec
Jim Rooney - 2013/02/15 06:48:18 UTC

Naw.
Davis has been at an around all this plenty long enough to understand what's what and who's who.
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That photo reminds me of Gary Larson's The Far Side cartoons. The ones where you see that something terrible is just about to happen.

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Re: Releases

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo2luM54zY0
Aero Towing at Moose's
Ann Dunlap - 2017/09/17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo2luM54zY0


My first aero towing flight in five years or so. Went pretty well.
Really well! You got your Lockout Mountain Flight Park release pried open after only a fraction of the jolts it took Ty Taylor to blow his...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNq1WKy0EqE

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And Lockout Mountain Flight Park doesn't warrant this gear as suitable for towing anything! Most impressive.
Got high and stayed up for almost two hours. Dedicating this flight and vid. to Mark Henline: mentor and friend to many and who now who has unlimited access to the sky, cosmos and beyond.
Must've been an excellent mentor and friend. Keep at it and perhaps you too will soon have unlimited access to the sky, cosmos, and beyond. Not to mention Mark Henline - mentor and friend to many. I'll sure be pulling for ya, anyway.
Bill Cummings

Love your music selection.
And her EQUIPMENT selection too, Bill!
I see that I'm me again with this comment.
You've always been you, Bill. Since at least the early Eighties.
Will we see you this weekend? Maybe you will be able to reclaim your identity giveaway.
Ann Dunlap

Hey Bill! I wish I had the time. It's only a two day weekend for me. May be able to go somewhere the WE before T-giving and Christmastime if winter storms and winds aren't a problem.
And not a punctuation mark's worth of reference to this total piece o' shit she had velcroed onto her downtube and kept her connected until she was half locked out in a non emergency release at altitude from Emperor Bob's hang glider towing Living Treasure.

Nice find...
http://www.kitestrings.org/post10643.html#p10643
...Steve. I just stumbled across it, thought I'd discovered a new gem, downloaded it, and... Oops.

It's hard to remember the era of the sport when it was a universal BIG FUCKING DEAL when a release jammed or hung up after one had executed the easy reach. Huge thanks to the US Aerotow Industry for lowering the bar to the point at which if something opens upon two out of three efforts in optimal circumstances it's universally regarded as high quality merchandise.
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Re: Releases

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You can bet the Farm that she has a weak link that will break before she gets into too much trouble.

Also good to see that she is filming her flights "Definitely something we all can learn from" and "This kind of review is invaluable to learning and progressing".

http://www.kitestrings.org/viewtopic.php?p=10775#p10775

PS - And then there is Bill:

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21800#p21800
Static Towing (ST)
Bill Cummings - 2017/12/12 04:41:20 UTC

If you are a recreational tow pilot, you should be breaking a weak-link regularly, since your main concern should be your safety.
Too incredibly fucking stupid to be able to conceptualize a situation where a power failure would result in a certain crash.
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How did you manage to embed that Ann Dunlap video, Tad?
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Re: Releases

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=35998
Instrument meddling leads to loss of control
Dave Pendzick - 2018/05/07 17:58:40 UTC

I don't know how u guys do things, but I fly with a 6015. I have the main LZ waypoint selected for the majority of my flights. Sometimes I decide to leave and go XC. When I do so, sometimes I need to select a new waypoint. I find that having to let go of the bar & fly one handed often leads to me spiraling out of control. Its astonishing to me the amount of buttons I have to push to get to the waypoint menu & find the one i want & finally select it. Does anyone have any tricks to mitigate this problem, ei instrument placement or one handed flying techniques?
http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31052
Poll on weaklinks
Brad Gryder - 2013/02/21 23:25:31 UTC

There's also a way to swing your body way outside the control frame so it stays up there while you reach out with one hand and release. Come on - do some pushups this winter. :roll: See if you can advance up to some one-arm pushups.
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=36090
Pro Tow vs. Three Point ?
dbhyslop - 2018/07/31 03:27:22 UTC

My conventional-style release from Lookout allows me to release while keeping both hands on the bar. During the entire tow I have the release strap around two of my fingers with a little slack. I slide that hand about three inches inboard on the bar and I'm off tow. The downside is the mechanism is wrapped around the basebar and in the way for the rest of the flight. It would be nice if I could run the cable through the downtube like a VG cord. The other downside is the actual release blowing around in flight ruining my videos and scratching my helmet on the ground. Maybe I should try a bungee to pull it tight to the keel while not under load.
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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=11497
Aerotow release options?

Pissed all over and locked down 2009/07/04 13:48:47 UTC - over nine years ago.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=34229
AT release
Karl Allmendinger - 2016/04/02 03:47:53 UTC

Tad Eareckson or Heath Robinson?
Rot in hell, motherfuckers.
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Another stills project that was begging to be done but that I was really dreading.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FoJoZ0fEDg
Hang Gliding, Day 15
Scott Corl - 2012/02/28

Another day of Scooter Towing at Wes/Mar. It was sunny but with winds 6-10 mph. I made an effort to land on the same spot every time but only made it within 10 feet 4 times out of the 7 attempts. I also had a line break on the first tow and made some meager efforts to find lift. Overall it was a good training session and a good exercise in ground Handling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FoJoZ0fEDg
Victim of John Alden's operation, Darbyville Ohio, nineteen miles SSW of Columbus, 39°42'09.42" N 083°08'03.92" W, 2012/02/26. Rocket launching (and landing) SSE / 145 degrees into the wind. Cheap bent pin shit Bailey "releases", he eats up nearly six seconds figuring out how to pry the starboard open on the second flight / first effort. And a nice look at how these things "work" in routine surface tow circumstances.

Lighting gets progressively worse over the course of the seven flights as the late winter sun drops nearly to the horizon up-camera by the final flight.

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Donchya just love the way the bent pin release barrels get pulled into contact with the control bar as we start going into flying mode.

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Look ma!

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No tow ring! Shane Smith, 2011/01/15, Phoenix comes to mind. (Lucky to get that shot. This first launch is he only time in the video that we can see the entire bridle and the connection to the tow rig.)

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The first flight was a tow line break.
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Manned Kiting
The Basic Handbook of Tow Launched Hang Gliding
Daniel F. Poynter
1974

"The greatest dangers are a rope break or a premature release." - Richard Johnson
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The end of the tow line has a loop through which the bridal runs.
1. Bridle.

2. I guess it would be idiotic to run the bridle through a tow ring or protect the loop and your bridle with a...

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...thimble. (We all know that the greater the complexity the greater the likelihood of failure. KISS.)

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It can wear out if not properly inspected.
Solution. Properly inspect it. Then it will be physically impossible for it to wear out. Problem solved.

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Not that a towline break can ever be an actual problem. It's a mere inconvenience that increases the safety of the towing operation. (Nice job stuffing the bar in response to the increase in the safety of the towing operation by the way.)

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This is a bit under eleven months prior to 2013/02/02 Zack Marzec inconvenience stall fatality.

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And we're just about back to normal flight mode.

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Just how well do you think that inconvenience would've gone if the increase in the safety of the towing operation had occurred just after leaving the cart?

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Oh well, he's got a backup loop so I guess he's actually OK from a safety standpoint.

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So how many of you noticed the absence of a designated weak link on this flight?

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Are you sure your bridle is long and thin enough? The longer and thinner stuff is the less likely it is to weld itself to a tow ring - or, in your case, loop - as half of it feeds through upon release.

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But, what the hell, when you've sawn through your tow loop as your means of separation it doesn't matter one way or another.

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Got that spot lined up pretty well, Scott?

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Gawd, I thought you'd NEVER...

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... go upright to the control tubes. (Joe Greblo would've had you launch by standing on the cart frame and you wouldn't have been allowed to touch the basetube until midway into your third season - assuming average Grebloville student progress.)

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Ever consider a situation in which you might need to run an approach for a marginal runway length situation?

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Just kidding.

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See where he's gotta move his glider BACK TO for the next hop?

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The other six landings are just like this one. He's way the fuck behind the glider and being saved from ugly crashes by the sissy conditions.

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But I guess they're all perfect in the eyes of his instructor 'cause - see above - they're all identical.

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Hey Scott... You own the bridle and everything behind and above it. John owns the towline and everything upwind of its downwind end - and he's your instructor. Shouldn't he have had at least SOME responsibility for ensuring the airworthiness of the equipment he owns and on which your life may depend in less forgiving circumstances? And if he's this negligent and incompetent regarding the relevant issue here shouldn't you be thinking hard about other areas in which balls may be getting dropped?
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Again, no weak link.

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Actually Scott...

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I thought this issue you had getting separated for the tow under routine conditions was important enough not to have its onset chopped completely and partially obscured by the fade-out from the previous sequence.

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This is "Day 15". It's not like this is the first time he's tried to pry one of these things open in the course of a routine tow.

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Try approaching from the backside of the control bar. May have better luck.

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There...

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Got it.

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Ever considered just how dead you'd be if you ever needed to blow one of these pieces o' shit it an emergency situation?

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That's OK. Neither did Jeff Bohl prior to his last flight at the 2016 Quest Air Open (and ever).

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Koch two stage had been around the better part of three decades prior to this bullshit. But at least with these you're in very little danger of getting your chest crushed. (As long as you don't hit the ground anyway - the way Zack and Jeff did.)

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Camera angle will be adjusted during the climb.

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Note nice look at the muddy eight inch pneumatic Finsterwalder below.

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Got that, people of varying ages? Slide your left hand to center, look down at the starboard barrel, reach behind the control bar with your right hand, establish a firm grasp, pull straight up/back, return to flying configuration, pull back in.

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Flight 4

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And now on Flight 4 our safe towing system has a focal point.

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Double loop of 130 pound Greenspot. It's what Davis decided he was happy with after he'd decided he was no longer happy with a single loop of 130 pound Greenspot. And we all play by the same rules or we don't play at all. Just ask Jim Keen-Intellect Rooney - if you can find him anywhere.

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It stays on for the remainder of the day's flights. And good luck blowing one of those bent pin pieces o' crap under the four hundred pounds towline tension it allows.

P.S.:

- Think ya made it long enough?

- So you think having port and starboard bent pin barrel releases is a good idea 'cause you'll be able to deal with a wrap - or would be if you'd used something that had any load capacity. But you're gonna be fine if you get a wrap as a consequence of a weak link blow - which is when you're most likely to get one - prying your starboard barrel open with nothing limiting the load between you and the winch.

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Title shot:

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Weak link showing clearly and identifiable.
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Flight 5

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Sorry 'bout the fade-out contamination (again) - but I like getting the entire release actions sequences whenever possible.

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Note bridle and weak link lengths. Why is it that 99.9 percent of participants in this idiot sport never seem to question any of the ways anything's being done? Even when they KNOW the assholes in whom they're trusting their lives are running in shoddy mode?

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I think that what we're seeing in the hangar is Dragonfly N667DF that's gonna end up upside down on the runway after a power inconvenience precipitated by Frank Murphy trying to tow a glider minus an engine warm-up. The glider was also likely using a Tad-O-Link which would've rendered the releases on both ends and the tug's tow mast breakaway protector inoperative.

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I think Scott's been extinct from the sport for the better part of five years.
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