First Cart Launch
OH! That was a "GREAT" landing. And if the landing isn't GREAT every time there's a real good chance of bonking - in his case bonking minus wheels.Nate Wreyford - 2014/01/22 22:43:53 UTC
Nice flight, great landing.
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=22176
Paragliding Collapses
You keep doing those great landings, Ryan. I have every confidence in you.Jim Rooney - 2011/06/12 13:57:58 UTC
Most common HG injury... spiral fracture of the humerus.
Oh really? So if it's any good then why are you getting it from these guys and not from any of your top notch "instructors"?Ryan Brown - 2014/01/23 04:47:068 UTC
Thanks for the advice. I DO appreciate it...
Oh. You'll CONSIDER it. On the one hand wheels could save you a dislocated shoulder or broken wrist, arm, or neck. On the other hand you have great landing skills. Flip a coin....and will definitely consider putting wheels on my glider...
http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3398...when I eventually put $$$ down for one.
A broken humerus, guess the cost.
Orion Price - 2012/07/16 06:39:188 UTC
It was almost 70k. 68 and change. Just for the surgery.
Well then. You should EXPECT to have to fly the most dangerous equipment. As you work your way up the totem pole you'll be rewarded with stuff like wheels and better helmets, parachutes, releases.At this point, I am flying a bunch of different gliders and don't get to choose as I am low-man on the totem.
- And you should be EXTREMELY grateful for that.The folks paying full-fare get to choose, and I get what is left over.
- And here I was thinking that the reason you were flying without wheels was 'cause you're just a "less is more" kind of guy.
Like in driver's ed when you're low man on the totem pole you hafta work your way up before you can expect to get a car with side view mirrors, turn signals, good brakes, seat belts.Since everyone wanted all of the Falcons, the next available are North Wing, and we don't have school basetubes for these. So, recently the Freedom 170 has been available, and that's what I've been flying.
No, but if I could do landings as great as the one you did on that glider that would be my favorite too.Did I mention that this is my new favorite?
Fuck the folk who liked the video. Start listening to the folk who are telling you what you NEED to hear and stop listening to the assholes who are telling you what you WANT to hear - especially your douchebag "instructors" at Mission.Glad more folks have liked the video.
Keep 'em coming. They'll give us something to do while we're waiting for the one Scott Howard promised we'd have a couple months ago.Definitely more to come!
Yeah, keep nailing those standup spots, Ryan. There's no more important skill you can develop in this sport. If you ever hafta land in a narrow dry riverbed with large rocks strewn all over the place you'll be in great shape. And think of all the cheers you'll get at the traffic cone in the middle of the primary while scores of your inferiors are doing the usual bonk and whack stuff.Red Howard - 2014/01/23 05:21:208 UTC
Ryan,
Good flyin'. Nice landing, and man, that spot is definitely in danger of getting trampled.Way to GO!
As long as the focal point of his safe towing system doesn't kick in right away the chances that he'll need wheels for cart launching are microscopic. The chances that he's gonna get seriously injured attempting to land without wheels for any one flying season are fuckin' huge.My earlier post here was to support what Darbbb said. Both mine and his post came because you asked "Why would I need wheels for cart launching?"
Depends on his attitude. Right now it sucks. I don't want people with shit attitudes to "succeed" because it hurts the sport and increases the probability of people who are trying to do things right getting trashed. The more motherfuckers like this:Please do not accept less than safety, in your flying. Everybody here wants you to succeed, both short-term and long-term.
0:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR_4jKLqrus
who "succeed" in recovering from the inconvenience of a Davis Link pop at two feet the more danger there is to everyone - present and future.
I will. Any motherfucker who puts a student up on second rate gear because he doesn't have first rate gear available should have his certification revoked and his head stuck up on a pike.You really can make your own luck, and I'd recommend doing that. If you are not getting first choice of the gear, I won't address that issue...
For whom? Is there any point in anybody's flying career that increasing the ability of the basetube to continue moving forward after ground contact is of no advantage?...but you can certainly add something like this to your own bag of tricks:
http://northwingsports.com/products/basetube-wheels-quick-safe-snap-on
Attached below are some other examples, some better than others.
Any wheels are better than no wheels...
I'd estimate the probability of someone coming down as a result of a cart mishap - not resulting from the inconvenience of a Davis Link increasing the safety of the towing operation - to be under 0.01 percent for any given flight. The probability of the glider needing to land in the course of any given flight is 100.00 percent....in any cart mishap.
http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=21465All the best to you,
Wish it had been the downtubes
Boy Oyng - 2011/04/09 22:06:36 UTC
But, as I said above, it was really the wheels that turned (!?) what should have been a minor embarrassment into a bone-snapping disaster. And here, I believe that the instructor may share some culpability.
I had just recently purchased the glider, harness, and helmet from the instructor. As a re-training student, I definitely still needed wheels (indeed, I intended to use them FAR into the foreseeable future and was looking to purchase or make a pair).
Until the day of the incident, I had always used those large, rigid black wheels. On this day, when I asked for wheels, the large wheels were not at hand, so the instructor handed me smaller, two-piece wheels that snap together over the control bar. I strongly believe that the combination of smaller wheel diameter, plus the break-apart nature of the wheels, plus the rain-softened ground is what caused the failure of the wheel to roll. I noticed after I was helped up that at least one of the wheels had separated. And I believe the instructor was more likely to know the conditions of the site and the suitability of the wheels for that ground.
