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Tad Eareckson
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Re: wires

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http://sonomawingsbb.yuku.com/topic/5822/Wires#.Vi1EnYSoVzo
Wires
Brian Scharp - 2015/10/26

http://www.kitestrings.org/post8427.html#p8427
Mike Lake - 2015/09/20 22:10:30 UTC

Squeezing the front wires together is also a quick and easy test. This is something I've done since the days of bulldog clamps.
A friend watched me do this last year and made it part of his preflight.
Just in time it would seem as his rear wire failed at the keel while still on the ground instead of over a volcano in Lanzarote!
Fuck that, just walk around the glider a few more times during preflight to be sure you didn't forget anything. If there were any legitimacy to what Mike and his friend are doing Fred and Eric would be doing it already.
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Re: wires

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Glorified stupidity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlWhkM6w0xc


P.S.

http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=33914
CHASING FUNSTON
Jim Gaar - 2016/01/13 15:08:51 UTC

Man I love that one...
Fuck you, Jim!
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Re: wires

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlWhkM6w0xc
Chasing Funston YOUTUBE
Joey Villaflor

Do you have any words of advice? Rafi?
Rafi Lavin

Uh... Just be careful and be safe.
That's it.
What else do you want me to say?
Absolutely nothing, Rafi. You totally nailed it. And who can possibly have any argument against just being careful and safe.
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Re: wires

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http://www.freeflightent.com/hang-gliding-parachute-survival.php
Incredible Hang Gliding Parachute Video
Bill Soderquist - 2010/07/29

To the folk at FREE FLIGHT thank you for saving my life. This flight started as a simple training exercise for new Aerobatic judges. We had 10 pilots doing demos for the judges. Four were newbies at aero. The pilot before me # 4 one of the new aero pilots (Thomas Richard Mayer, 60, Carpinteria, died less than two hours later) had blown his maneuvers' and did not deploy. I did not realize that at the time and only saw a glider down with emergency personal at the site. (Fire engine and flashing lights) thinking the fastest way out of the sky was to do my routine.

I started my performance -- 3 spins left into 3 spins right into a head on to the judge's loop followed by an unplanned parachute deployment. I had stressed to the new aero pilots to clear their chute handle after launch and to make the move with their hand to familiarize them self's. I stress they were pushing themselves and their equipment beyond the certified limits and if need, they had to know where the handle was. I did my normal look, clear, and reach to make sure I knew where the chute was as I fly several different harnesses. Then put it out of my mind as I cleared the box, started smoke and concentrated on the routine ahead. The routine went as planned through the first to spin maneuvers then I set up for my head on for the judges. As I let the bar out the left side wire broke. I expected the glider to fold then as this had happen to me long ago. The glider held and I pushed the bar out to clear myself to throw. This caused the glider to fail to the extreme.

People ask what were you thinking. My practice and previous reaching made the move automatic. I didn't think till the chute was in my hand when I hesitated to determine clear air and throw against the spin. All that was mute as the glider had gutted itself and I was in free fall. I threw as the wreckage came around and hit my arm resulting in a short throw. The extra bridle as a result fell below me I fell over the bridle just as the chute opened causing several broken ribs and knocking the air out of me. The rest of the ride was uneventful. I landed in high bushes. I got back in to harness for protection from the branches. Help arrived within minutes.
Jonathan's post at:

http://ozreport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47061
See through king posted glider

inspired me to continue and finish a stills project I'd started two Decembers ago.

http://vimeo.com/22146182


I'd pulled most of the frames but they needed major cropping and I didn't know how I was gonna handle that in anal mode - which is the only mode in which I'm able to function - so there things sat. Made myself do it and I think the results are pretty OK.

You'll notice no helmet in this Kenny Westfall photo:

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Watch it come flying off after 25-02620c.

Deployment bag over the opening canopy at 37-02923f.

Note the "c"s and "f"s at the ends of the identifier codes. C - Cropped to 800 width. You're seeing them at max resolution. F - Full frame. Displayed at 800 width but the associated URL, as usual, gets you to max/original - 1280x720 for this video.

Right after Tom piles in with his broken glider and probable already broken neck - 2010/06/05 18:45 PDT, Crestline/AJX.

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But at least he didn't grind his wires into any of the sharp rocks in the setup area back at launch.

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Re: wires

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http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=3716
Mishap at Big Sur 2012
TerryH - 2016/05/08 17:08:47 UTC
Corona

Bumping this thread as a reminder and for people who haven't seen it before, and because it just happened to me.
No, it didn't just HAPPEN TO YOU.
Yesterday I had the same assembly error...
No you didn't. You failed to install a control frame corner bolt/pin.
...fortunately discovered when I picked up the partially assembled glider to move it out of someone's way. I'm pretty sure I would have caught it at pre-flight time, since I'm bordering on paranoid about this particular "feature" of the Falcon, and I visually inspect that area for correctness AND do the WW "tread on the side wire" test. Still... makes you think...
Does it make you think about the 97 percent of your fellow flyers who won't do the WW "tread on the side wire" test with guns to their fuckin' heads and the 65 percent who scream warnings nonstop about the inevitable damage one will do by grinding his wires into the sharp rocks in the setup area?
Steve Murillo - 2016/05/08 19:14:40 UTC

Assembly

Good to know that these discussions can have a positive effect on the community. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Sorry, I missed the part where anybody said he was doing anything differently/better as a result of reading this now eight post thread. Even the anonymous "pilot" who had his glider fold up upon launch whose report you relayed to start this one off has said NOTHING with respect to implementing the stomp test.

Until you've got one hundred percent of your flyers doing the stomp test for every setup and at least casually watching to see if others are doing it you've got a kill potential that there is ZERO excuse for having.

What you instead have as an unofficial safety committee is a bunch o' douchebags hanging out in the LZ primed to yell "WHAAAAACK" every time someone bonks one of your stupid and dangerous stunt landings.

We to date have zero indication that a single individual implemented the stomp test in response to Rafi Lavin - 2015/08/23.
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Re: wires

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All that foot stomping certainly takes its toll!

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Re: wires

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Just bend the strand back in place, wrap some electrical tape around the problem area, and vow to never again stress your flying wires before you get into the air.
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First, before taping, clean the problem area of sharp rock fragments.
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No, clean the problem area WITH sharp rock fragments. Gives you a better/stronger/safer bond.
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Re: wires

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http://www.hanggliding.org/viewtopic.php?t=22540
LMFP release dysfunction
Jim Gaar - 2011/07/14 15:40:13 UTC

The classified section is ready if you don't.
Then, try to sell it on Jack Asshole's classified section.
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