Re: The Bob Show
Posted: 2017/11/28 10:54:29 UTC
I dunno...
http://www.kitestrings.org/post10594.html#p10594
Mark's advised us to please be careful out there. That's surely prevented at least half a dozen unhooked launches and many hundreds of imperfectly timed flares.
Hey Bob...
On one of the many more recent phone conversations we had when Kite Strings was your only hope for mobilizing the thousands of active flyers out there highly motivated to Break u$hPa's Monopoly Control of Flying Sites, we were discussing the eclipse and I said that my primary motivation with the rattler was to get him bagged quickly before some asshole came along with a shovel to make E09 a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. And you identified yourself as someone who would've been an asshole who would've come along with a shovel to make E09 a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. Big surprise - what with your legendary concern for the safety of people of varying ages.
And if you'd been there instead of me and nobody had been around with a bigger shovel to properly deal with you in a timely manner you'd have majorly degraded and permanently severely tainted the experience of that day for a lot of people.
Most of those people had come hundreds of miles to see one of the most spectacular phenomena in the NATURE of this planet. And that was a definite first for many and undoubtedly last for some chunk of that set. And that rattler was definitely a significant bonus for probably all who saw him.
Spectacular product of millions of years of evolution - damn near all of it in isolation from humans and their predecessors. Spectacular phenomenon of nature, also undoubtedly a first and last experience for many. That was the FIFTH live rattler I've encountered in the wild in my lifetime - and I go out of my way to see stuff like that. Previous was a couple decades ago and I may not live to see another at that rate.
And most of that is 'cause of assholes like you who go around with shovels decapitating everything they find that they THINK might be a venomous reptile - not to mention bulldozing and paving everything in sight they think will work for the purpose of unsustainable human population expansion.
And this little guy:
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http://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4392/36798305975_9808dd3c27_o.png
has been out surviving and filling his niche in the ecosystem in some rather bleak and desolate desert scrub that nobody wants for anything other than a once in fifty thousand year eclipse viewing platform, we invade en mass for half a day, you decapitate him 'cause of your concern for the safety of people of varying ages and it's too much goddam trouble to just bag him for a couple hours and your idiot fucking bible says he's evil for being born a snake. (And I remember you on the phone a good many years ago saying with respect to Mark G. Forbes, "He's a SNAKE." (Like the most vile of God's creations.))
But you don't shoot the Moose, Grizzly, Wolf, Mountain Lion a hundred miles back upstream at Yellowstone 'cause they're furry and found on calendars and postcards - and you'd be a whole lot less likely to get away with it. (The way your buddy Sam has shooting (at) hawks.)
Well, lemme tell ya sumpin', motherfucker... Times change and lotsa rattlers around the country enjoy various levels of LEGAL protections - including ones in Idaho. You can't just go around chopping heads off of anything and everything you feel entitled to and necessarily get away with it. And even with as much of a dickhead magnet as hang gliding is there's a very strong trend against killing rattlers.
- On 1989/04/09 a cold, slow moving little Timber Rattler was discovered soaking up some afternoon rays on the south McConnellsburg ramp. Everybody ran for cameras.
- Sharon Moon (Florida - can't find the reference) ejected a surprise Pygmy Rattler out of her sailplane cockpit when she found the situation too close for comfort but didn't feel good about it. (I'd have landed with him.)
- Rattlers at launches are just getting moved out of the traffic areas.
- I can't even recall a single reported instance of a rattler being deliberately killed by a glider person.
My feeling... If you don't have some compassion for the non human stuff - including the somewhat scary non human stuff - you also have zilch compassion for most or all of the human stuff. And Terry Mason comes to immediate mind on that score. Not seeing any solid evidence of you not being a major sociopath.
http://www.kitestrings.org/post10594.html#p10594
Mark's advised us to please be careful out there. That's surely prevented at least half a dozen unhooked launches and many hundreds of imperfectly timed flares.
Hey Bob...
On one of the many more recent phone conversations we had when Kite Strings was your only hope for mobilizing the thousands of active flyers out there highly motivated to Break u$hPa's Monopoly Control of Flying Sites, we were discussing the eclipse and I said that my primary motivation with the rattler was to get him bagged quickly before some asshole came along with a shovel to make E09 a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. And you identified yourself as someone who would've been an asshole who would've come along with a shovel to make E09 a safe place for people of varying ages to visit. Big surprise - what with your legendary concern for the safety of people of varying ages.
And if you'd been there instead of me and nobody had been around with a bigger shovel to properly deal with you in a timely manner you'd have majorly degraded and permanently severely tainted the experience of that day for a lot of people.
Most of those people had come hundreds of miles to see one of the most spectacular phenomena in the NATURE of this planet. And that was a definite first for many and undoubtedly last for some chunk of that set. And that rattler was definitely a significant bonus for probably all who saw him.
Spectacular product of millions of years of evolution - damn near all of it in isolation from humans and their predecessors. Spectacular phenomenon of nature, also undoubtedly a first and last experience for many. That was the FIFTH live rattler I've encountered in the wild in my lifetime - and I go out of my way to see stuff like that. Previous was a couple decades ago and I may not live to see another at that rate.
And most of that is 'cause of assholes like you who go around with shovels decapitating everything they find that they THINK might be a venomous reptile - not to mention bulldozing and paving everything in sight they think will work for the purpose of unsustainable human population expansion.
And this little guy:
11-7161c
http://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4392/36798305975_9808dd3c27_o.png
has been out surviving and filling his niche in the ecosystem in some rather bleak and desolate desert scrub that nobody wants for anything other than a once in fifty thousand year eclipse viewing platform, we invade en mass for half a day, you decapitate him 'cause of your concern for the safety of people of varying ages and it's too much goddam trouble to just bag him for a couple hours and your idiot fucking bible says he's evil for being born a snake. (And I remember you on the phone a good many years ago saying with respect to Mark G. Forbes, "He's a SNAKE." (Like the most vile of God's creations.))
But you don't shoot the Moose, Grizzly, Wolf, Mountain Lion a hundred miles back upstream at Yellowstone 'cause they're furry and found on calendars and postcards - and you'd be a whole lot less likely to get away with it. (The way your buddy Sam has shooting (at) hawks.)
Well, lemme tell ya sumpin', motherfucker... Times change and lotsa rattlers around the country enjoy various levels of LEGAL protections - including ones in Idaho. You can't just go around chopping heads off of anything and everything you feel entitled to and necessarily get away with it. And even with as much of a dickhead magnet as hang gliding is there's a very strong trend against killing rattlers.
- On 1989/04/09 a cold, slow moving little Timber Rattler was discovered soaking up some afternoon rays on the south McConnellsburg ramp. Everybody ran for cameras.
- Sharon Moon (Florida - can't find the reference) ejected a surprise Pygmy Rattler out of her sailplane cockpit when she found the situation too close for comfort but didn't feel good about it. (I'd have landed with him.)
- Rattlers at launches are just getting moved out of the traffic areas.
- I can't even recall a single reported instance of a rattler being deliberately killed by a glider person.
My feeling... If you don't have some compassion for the non human stuff - including the somewhat scary non human stuff - you also have zilch compassion for most or all of the human stuff. And Terry Mason comes to immediate mind on that score. Not seeing any solid evidence of you not being a major sociopath.